Sony PS3 - Reference Blu-ray Player?

Started by Dave3putt Nov 30, 2006 63 posts
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#2
Thanks Dave!

Actual performance is unknown but the reviewer did feel that the Sony, updated Samsung and Panasonic were similar.

NOTES

The PS3 will NOT upscale SD DVD to any HD scan rate and you are stuck at 480P

Has HDMI 1.3 for HD audio
#3
the PS3 wont upscale standard def DVD yet. A sony rep said it can be added later ( via software update im guessing) if the consumer demand asks for it.
#4
The PS3 is a great machine, can't be beat for upgrade capability and only 599.99. I have this playing on my new Panasonic 1080P projector and it rocks!...Only thing I hate is remote is Bluetooth and there is no IR. Bummer if you have a nice universal remote...... :twisted:
#5
hopefully it will be compatible with RF remotes...

The 360 uses both... hmmm... that was an unforseen advantage...
#6
:idea:
Richard,

I have yet to see a single RF remote that can learn anything other than IR codes from another device. Have you?

Apparently, Sony does not think their PS3 is worthy of incorporation into home entertainment systems by custom integrators. I suppose we would have had to wait many more months for the console in order to see such features added to their design.

How are the fundamentals, such as basic picture and sound performance? Extra convenience features are nice, but what about the fundamentals? If it doesn't look or sound right, all the potential bells and whistles don't amount to much, do they?

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.
www.cinemaquestinc.com

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"
#7
Hi Alan,

For the remote I am referring to codes provided by the manufacturer of the universal product. As you point out there is no other way...

As for performance... unknown at this time... it's not like I can swing by any local retailer and get one... :lol:

course you know that... :wink:

But I do want one!
#8
Richard and Alan........The PS3 is every bit as good as the other offerings and then some...It is fast with eject, fast with load times, and produces a stunning picture on reference Q films like, "Black Hawk Down"..."The Great Raid"..."The Haunted Mansion"...These flicks look every bit as good on the PS3 as any flick has looked on my HD-A1. There is nothing wrong with blu-ray machines (excluding Samsungs 1080P shortcomings)...The Samsung has been discontinued...with firmware upgrade it is just as good as the Sony offerings for 720P and 1080i...BUT...There is something wrong with the Samsungs 1080P output...It is not full 1080P resolution. The Panasonic has some cue issues (nothing serious)...The Sony stand alone has problems with PCM 7.1 decoding (will not allow PCM + modes on your receiver). The PS3 has no such problems....It really is a wonder machine. Just wish I could incorporate the remote into my MX-3000. Maybe there will be some adapter made someday?...(right). The Playstation is the most future proof of all Blu-ray offerings and will also soon have update for 1080P/24 coming in 2 months. In short, for 599.99 it smokes the competition.
#9
BUT...There is something wrong with the Samsungs 1080P output...It is not full 1080P resolution.


Yep. Check the Samsung thread... It doesn't have a real 1080P output... it's artificial.
#10


As for performance... unknown at this time... it's not like I can swing by any local retailer and get one... :lol:

course you know that... :wink:

But I do want one!

Richard, thought I would jump in here and let you know that my neighbor is a big time ebay dealer and he has a few of these PS3's they are 60 GB.......I asked him how much he wanted for one and he said 799.99.00 So if you don't want to wait I could buy one and send it to you....Let me know. I got tired of waiting to find one in a store and bought one...We are not good friends so I can't get a better deal...(His dog is always crapping on my lawn and I kinda made a stink out of it...(no double pun intended)... :D You could pay me Pay Pal cause I have an account....Just use my email...It's up to you if you want to pick it up in Acworth, or I will send it to you.
#11
If Richard passes, I'm interested ;-).

- Shane
#12
----- HDTV Magazine Tips List -----

Good news for those of you trying to get a PS3:
http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21577

It essentially says that Sony is committing to have 1 million PS3's "in
the pipeline" by the end of the year/month ... stating that the
"manufacturing...problems have been resolved".


--

Shane Sturgeon
Publisher, HDTV Magazine

www.hdtvmagazine.com
#13
I appreciate the offer Chuck but I don't need one that bad to spend another $200... I'll wait...

Shane, go for it! :wink:
#14
Richard no problem...Thought I would mention it... :D

Shane I PM'd you...Let me know... :D
#15
Thought I would mention that I have 2 in hand for sale. one 60GB and one 20GB...The demand will get higher in the days preceding X-mas. Anyone interest in one of these can PM me or email me at [email protected]. The 60GB is 800.00 and the 20GB is 700.00...Ground shipping should only be about 25 bucks or so. Or you can pick-up in Acworth or Merrietta area GA... :D
#16
I may end up with one at normal retail by tomorrow...

:)
#17
Yeah...Okay. Let me know.

Large PS3 shipment on December 17?
Added on 12/16/2006.
A rumor has been floating around the internet for a couple days now, saying both Sony and Nintendo are gearing up to ship a large amount of consoles to North American retailers on December 17. According to PS3seeker and Wiiseeker, "We believe there are going to be Wiis held and released Dec. 17 and that will be the last shipment before Christmas. We think there might be a PS3 shipment about the same time."

Of course nothing is set in stone, as both respective companies are the only ones who really know when they'll be shipping more units. However, both Toys R Us and Circuit City are expecting to receive more units this weekend.

So perhaps this rumor is a fact and that retailers will indeed receive more PS3s and Wiis on Sunday. Either way, true or not, it would be saddening to miss out on what could be the last chance to gain a PS3 or Wii before Christmas.

I personally think this is a rumor. They may ship out more Nintendo's, but I doubt any more PS3s will make it before Xmas.
#18
Update on PS3.... :twisted:

All was well until tonight the wife and I were watching "Click" with Adam Sandler...and it froze up once, then later we were watching X-men and it froze up 3 times!...That's one more time than my Toshiba HD-DVD player has done all year!...Dunno...With no IR and this freezing up scenereo, I'm gonna bail out on the PS3 and go with the Pioneer Elite and pray that it is the answer to my hopes for a solid blu-ray machine... :D
#19
If the warranty is transferable I might be willing to bail you out... :wink:
#20
Richard, I have a receipt for it from BB, and have not filled out the warranty card...so there is no problem there. Actually, I have till Jan 24th to return it to Best Buy but I would lose money...I was over at avsforums and everyone there is reporting the same occational freeze up scenereo, (so I don't think there is anything wrong with the player). I payed 800 for it. Give me 700.00 and it's yours. You will have till Jan 24th to return it. This way I'm only down 1 Ben Franklin instead of 2... :D Let me know.
#21
I have till Jan 24th to return it to Best Buy but I would lose money...


Why?

What makes yours $800? I thought they were $600...
#22
Richard...as I said in an earlier post, I bought one from my neighbor who is a ebay retailer and flea market sales dude...He somehow bought a bunch of these from BB and ToysRus...He sells them on ebay. He is charging 799.99 for the 60GB and 699.99 for the 20 GB. He sells them with a cash receipt. BestBuy has extended their return policy to Jan 24th for items purchased between nov 1st and Dec 24th...The 799.99 is his "buy it now" price...and then of course folks bid on them. He and i don't get along very well as I've said because of his dog. So he wasn't going to give me any kind of break on the PS3. I got tired of running around trying to find one in a store and bought one from him. I also have a 20 GB.
#23
Hello All
PS3 is the way to go. I was in SF and stumble into the PS3 (since they are hard to find) The Blu-ray picture is awsome on both movies and games "Black Hawk Down" and "Reistance for men" excellent picture. Also I'm able to access the net via wireless and my son is able to play with others on the internet.
The control might be tricky but it is easy to learn and all the options can be change on screen with out stopping the movie "on the fly" (i.e. language etc). I'm very impressed and since the battle of who will be the dominat format (blu-ray or HD DVD) is not determine I played it safe safe since we get a game console, access to the internet, save pictures and play music with the 5.1 sound etc. I belive as a value it is the best option at this time
Hope this help
Thanks :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
#24
Cost
$599.00 for the 60G at the Playstation store in SF Metreon, no big lines I was the 8 out of 12. They had been selling it since 2:00 in the afternoon and maybe they have some left. Call ahead
#25
He is charging 799.99 for the 60GB and 699.99 for the 20 GB. He sells them with a cash receipt. BestBuy has extended their return policy to Jan 24th for items purchased between nov 1st and Dec 24th...The 799.99 is his "buy it now" price

I've been checking last night and this morning to see what the market is like on eBay for the 60GB PS3's and found that they are consistently going for about $700, either BIN or bid. I even saw one this morning go for retail: 1 bid, $599.

Just FYI,

- Shane
#26
Yeah, I was checking on there myself a little while ago...The 60GB are going for 700-800 or more. I saw a few auctions that were up to 1800.00!...(don't understand that)...When I bought mine the prices were higher cause it was the first week that the PS3 came out, so it seemed like a pretty good deal to me...799.99 was actually low at the time and I didn't have to stress whether the person on ebay was legit or not. Well, I sure don't want to lose money so I decided to put mine in the local classifieds for 900.00 OBO...The worst that can happen is that I actually "make" a few bucks... :D
#27
The one's I found that were $1000+ all included games or controllers of some sort. Although I did find a few that had bids that were way over what the exact same system was at BIN in other listings ... oh well.

I'm still shopping ;-)

- Shane
#28

All was well until tonight the wife and I were watching "Click" with Adam Sandler...and it froze up once, then later we were watching X-men and it froze up 3 times!...

Reviews and reports about the "reliability" of these new HD machines to play a disc all the way through with no glitches has been sorely lacking, so thanks for this report, chuckken. My Toshiba HD-A1 seems to have no problem with SD discs, but has had a couple of half second stutters that gets the audio a split second off with HD DVDs. Also, some half speed to double speed wandering. I haven't played too many discs with it yet, but it seems the player needs a good, clean, nonscratched HD disc to have a chance.

A problem free DVD movie experience is very important to me. I spent quite some time earlier looking for an upconverting player that would not only put out a great picture, but would also not freezeup and stutter. I found one in a Sony DVP something(loaning it to my mom). That thing ran anything you put in it without a single problem-always.

I would say that the video/audio of the new HD player with an HD disc is at least 30% better than my old upconverter. But after one freezeup, the total experience of the two is about equal-to me. After two or more problems, I would rather have my old dependable back.
#29
BTW, did an ISF with a Sony PS3 and the SD DVD is downright NASTY and useless! We could not get it to do 16:9!!! The xbox 360 smokes it if you readjust your black level...

I look forward to the firmware upgrade...

Considering both of these products want to be the center piece and media hub of an HD system the universal delivery of quality has been quite poor.
#30

All was well until tonight the wife and I were watching "Click" with Adam Sandler...and it froze up once, then later we were watching X-men and it froze up 3 times!...

Reviews and reports about the "reliability" of these new HD machines to play a disc all the way through with no glitches has been sorely lacking, so thanks for this report, chuckken.

You are quite welcome. I am anxiously awaiting my Pioneer Elite Blu-Ray which was released on the west coast Dec 20th and due here on or about the 1st of the year......Reports on this player are very good. There are several new owners over at AVS and so far it is the "only" player with no freeze ups or problems. I know it will be firmware upgradable for the new audio codecs. Probably won't here the news till CES in Vegas this coming month. The Pioneer Elite is the one to get. I have sold both my PS3's they are worthless to me and have no IR support. Both players had freeze ups and also multitudes on AVS experienced the same thing. Can't wait for my Elite!.... :D