Mitsubishi L65-A90 LaserVue DLP

Started by Anonymously Submitted Jun 25, 2008 13 posts
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#1
What do think of the lazer mitsubishi tv
#3
Hello -

An observation ... throughout your posts since joining here, your questions have seemed to be all about "tomorrow's possibilities ?"

As a new HDTV suspect ..{ first time set buyer, etc..} - you may well believe that only the absolutely very first item literally available for purchase IS the "must have that !"

But - for many before, to only consider having the very latest on the market has been a very sure way to also experience the failures of maker's rushing things to market too soon!

Samsung's very first sets w/ 120Hz or the infamous "triple ball fiasco" during the World Series is only one such example.

It's great to have the very top of the market but that doesn't always mean one should grab it Before there's been a few before you.

As Richard said, these will be only actually tested / used / reported in another 6-9 months or more, particularly if these don't sell well & create sufficient volume to be a statistically big enough sample.

Just food for thought.
eli
#4
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They claim it to have a much broader color gamut than rec.709, the HDTV program production standard. A larger color gamut will be beneficial some time in the future, when the production industry changes its methods. Digital Cinema will use a larger color gamut, film has a larger color gamut than video. However, current post production and broadcast video monitors use either SMPTE C or rec.709 color gamuts. If a television is displaying a present day video program in larger color gamut than it was produced with, the color will be distorted and over-emphasized.

It remains to be seen whether Mitsubishi will offer a display mode setting that actually obeys the international rules of correct color gamut for all the HD programs being produced in the world currently! If they follow previous design habits, this new TV will also be incapable of delivering a correct picture. Image fidelity has not been their highest priority in years past. Precious few consumer TVs today can even be fully calibrated to completely obey the rules of the system. Most consumers will never in their entire lifespan see any video program as it was intended to look by the program's producer! Most TV manufacturers don't think the masses want to see the truth.:cry:

Best regards and beautiful pictures,
Alan Brown, President
CinemaQuest, Inc.

"Advancing the art and science of electronic imaging"
#5
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As Richard said, these will be only actually tested / used / reported in another 6-9 months or more, particularly if these don't sell well & create sufficient volume to be a statistically big enough sample.

Just food for thought.
eli

You also pay through the nose to have the latest and greatest. Unless there's some sort of major breakthrough, the law of diminishing returns kicks in. Just how much improvement is your extra $1000 or two buying you from last year's (or six months) newest sensation? And like Richard says, why be an expensive guinea pig for a possible failed technology on top of it?

Great savings can be made buying close outs and clearences when they move out the old and start hyping the new. Some of them are also proven and time tested. Just remember how you lusted after those models when they were rolled out.
#6
I have hopes of purchasing one, under two conditions:

1. That the price is competitive with their high quality DLP units.

2. That the warranty is sufficiently long and robust that I don't feel like I'm being used as a guinea pig.

We're looking forward to seeing one on the floor in the near future. I'm tired of replacing lamps in my 2004 Mits DLP unit.
#8
2. That the warranty is sufficiently long and robust that I don't feel like I'm being used as a guinea pig.

The warranty is likely to be standard - 1 year parts and labor
#9
Thanks. If that is the case, there will not be sufficient incentive for me to be among the early adopters of this product.
#10
Richard, thanks for posting the guide again. Fortunately, I had read it before and we do follow your recommendations. I am in the critical power business, so my whole house is surge suppressed and I have UPS feeding my HDTVs to prevent surges and outages from affecting the light engine.

However, the MITS DLP is on, conservatively, 12 hours per day, 365 days a year; even longer when our favorite sports teams are on a West Coast swing. Typically, we get the on-screen lamp warning at about one year. Right now, we are at nearly 3 months beyond the date when the warning first appeared. Normally, we replace the lamp before now. Hoping that it lasts long enough to see the Laser Vue debut so we can save a couple of bucks if we decide to go that route.

I guess the good news is that picture quality is like new every time you replace the lamp. The Laser Vue holds interest because of the anticipated life and better dimensions than our 62737. Only time will tell regarding the reliability issue. Like one of your members stated, there has to be enough of them purchased to establish a large enough statistical base. Hopefully, MITS is listening and will make it attractive enough to accomplish that goal.

Once again, thanks for you most valuable input to the chat room!
#11
Mitsubishi snobbish, high end marketing strikes again! After all the hype about offering this animal at prices comparable to flat panel TVs, Mits brings this to market at $7,000 for the 65" size (while offering DLP units in this size range for as low as $1200). Having targeted only the high income buyer, they have limited distribution of demo units to very few outlets in selected pockets of major markets.

Here, in Orlando, FL, they have a demo unit only in the South end of town close to Lake Nona, Bay Hill, Isleworth, etc. where guys like Tiger Woods, Ernie Els, Shaquile O'Neal and other sports stars, etc. make their homes.

I was interested in buying one, but, quite frankly, I don't have the extra pocket change to afford one. I guess, in order to avoid the annual lamp replacement routine, I'll switch to a Sammy LED unit.
#12
Mitsubishi snobbish, high end marketing strikes again!


You must have really wanted one bad!

This first generation product has been put on a limited volume run. As you noted, availability is terrible and that has also led to much higher pricing than expected. That said I too was shocked to find pricing comparable to 65" flat panel rather than lower and somewhere in between. Mitsubishi thinks they will sell at this price though. If they are wrong we will see some heavy discounting likely in the first quarter 2009. I doubt they will be able to compete with the Samsung LED even in volume for the short term because there is way more expense involved using lasers just based on what I saw.

Sadly, there is little I can say at this time. I am under a non-disclosure agreement with Mits until they roll out their big marketing campaign and explanation of technology. Ultimately I can't talk until they do...
#13
Thanks for your reply, Rich. I would have been interested at about half that price. Like you said, we'll see just how much interest there is in buying a brand new technology at that high a price; we're spoiled by the excellent picture quality available in much less expensive technologies.

I'm expecting the same kind of thing to happen with the Chevy Volt. I wonder if, in this day in age, most families find that $40K (plus the additional pop that the dealers are going to add) will find it affordable.

I have another 10-12 months to go before I order another new lamp. We'll see what pricing is then.