I have a LG LST3410A DVR. I use it with an antenna. With the digital transition complete , do you know what channel it is using to download the TV Guide Programming in Zip Code 46902 or how to find out? Thank you.
LG LST3410A HDTV DVR - does TV Guide still work?
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Dear kokomolady47 . . .
I "tried" all over their web site, wanting to obtain a full manual for downloading in order to perhaps 'help."
BUT - LG has removed 100% of the data about your unit.
Perhaps a more "expedient" means would be to fill out their Email & do as you already have here, too.
Sorry!
eli
http://www.lge.com/us/support/contact/s ... essage.jsp
I "tried" all over their web site, wanting to obtain a full manual for downloading in order to perhaps 'help."
BUT - LG has removed 100% of the data about your unit.
Perhaps a more "expedient" means would be to fill out their Email & do as you already have here, too.
Sorry!
eli
http://www.lge.com/us/support/contact/s ... essage.jsp
I have a LG LST3410A DVR. I use it with an antenna. With the digital transition complete , do you know what channel it is using to download the TV Guide Programming in Zip Code 46902 or how to find out? Thank you.
TV Guide programming for the LST3410A still works. I used to get it from the PBS analog broadcast which disappeared about a year ago but reappeared several months later. For information about the LST3410A you should go to the AVS Forum. Under HDTV recorders there is a very long discussion thread (now about 207 pages long) entitled LST3410A Reviews and Discussions. Do not start from the beginning page which started in December 2003 but from the end page and work your way back. They mention that the LST3410A uses TVGOS to supply the guide and that CBS digital stations (at least in some areas including mine) make it available if you can tune to them.
TV Guide programming for the LST3410A still works. I used to get it from the PBS analog broadcast which disappeared about a year ago but reappeared several months later. For information about the LST3410A you should go to the AVS Forum. Under HDTV recorders there is a very long discussion thread (now about 207 pages long) entitled LST3410A Reviews and Discussions. Do not start from the beginning page which started in December 2003 but from the end page and work your way back. They mention that the LST3410A uses TVGOS to supply the guide and that CBS digital stations (at least in some areas including mine) make it available if you can tune to them.
I still don't have it working. LG was no help. TV Guide says I have to buy a converter box & hook it up to it, which makes no sense. It's a set top conversion box on it's own. Most other sources says that's not true.
I did find this information & thought I would share the site. It gives the channel information for who supplies the TV Guide Data. http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos
Thanks for your help.
I did find this information & thought I would share the site. It gives the channel information for who supplies the TV Guide Data. http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php?request=tvgos
Thanks for your help.
The latest discussion in the AVS forum indicates that while TVGOS is now transmitted digitally, the problem
with the LG and some other OTA DVRs is that it only handles analog guide information. Oh well, I can still
record manually.
with the LG and some other OTA DVRs is that it only handles analog guide information. Oh well, I can still
record manually.
I'm recording on mine manually, also. But, it's a pain - 30 minute recordings & having to label each.
So, with your comment, maybe what TV Guide said is correct. What do you think?
"Now that the digital transition is complete, your TV Guide will not continue to work because it can not work off the digital data. You will need to get a converter box that will be able to convert the TV Guide data into an analog format for your TV to read to still display TV Guide listings. To our knowledge, EchoStar and Artec are the only companies that manufactures a box that passes our data (This is not a recommendation or endorsement of this product).
For more information, use the following resources.
www.dtv2009.gov
So, with your comment, maybe what TV Guide said is correct. What do you think?
"Now that the digital transition is complete, your TV Guide will not continue to work because it can not work off the digital data. You will need to get a converter box that will be able to convert the TV Guide data into an analog format for your TV to read to still display TV Guide listings. To our knowledge, EchoStar and Artec are the only companies that manufactures a box that passes our data (This is not a recommendation or endorsement of this product).
For more information, use the following resources.
www.dtv2009.gov
maybe what TV Guide said is correct. What do you think?
That is absolutely correct. In spite of being able to tune both digital and analog signals, the LG was designed to be obsolete from the start, since it can ONLY extract TVGOS data from an analog signal. Those are gone now. But TVGOS has a digital version, which many CBS affiliates distribute.
The 2 special boxes they listed, while also being DTV Converters (which you don't care about), also have a feature that allows them to be translators, converting digital TVGOS data to analog TVGOS, which is what your LG needs to see.
This is the ONLY way you'll ever get Guide info back (i.e., there are no other options), however, there are no guarantees that the translated TVGOS will work for you. The problem is that there were more than one version of analog TVGOS (v7, v8, v9?). Some broadcasters transmit only one version, and frequently that version isn't the one that the LG wants to see. If you spend a bit of time in the AVS discussion thread mentioned, you'll find some people spending a HUGE amount of time trying to figure out any contorted way to get this working... and not having much luck.
Pick up a DTV Pal Plus converter box in case a way is found to make it work, check in on the AVS forum periodically to see if they managed it, and in the meantime, suffer with manual settings on a DVR that LG knew would be obsolete when they sold it. They removed all information on the unit from their website because they want to wash their hands of it. They have no interest in supporting it, or doing anything whatsoever to assist their customers in any way.
Personally, that makes me want to run out and buy lots more LG electronics products... NOT!
- Tim
Thanks, Tim.
I will try the converter box.
I agree. LG has lost my confidence. I won't buy another of their products.
I will try the converter box.
I agree. LG has lost my confidence. I won't buy another of their products.
Before trashing LG a quick question? Are they the only TV Guide enabled DVR or HDTV having a problem with DTV only broadcasting for guide data?
Tim,
Seems one answer keeps leading to another question.
When connecting the DTVPal pre-converter box, do I connect it to the Antenna connection or the cable connection?
If I use the cable connection, what signal type do I select for the box?
I hope this works. Thanks.
Seems one answer keeps leading to another question.
When connecting the DTVPal pre-converter box, do I connect it to the Antenna connection or the cable connection?
If I use the cable connection, what signal type do I select for the box?
I hope this works. Thanks.
kocomolady47 . . .
NOT-In-Any-Way to make light of your situation, please give consideration one of these reduced Sony HDTVs - available w/ internal TV Guide and totally w/o any "falderal" whatever .... you simply input your ZIP within the initial set up menu w/ that Sony Remote & you are "OFF-TO-THE-RACES!"
Automatically updates each & every Channel during "wee" hours ... all for "Free!"
Of course, this doesn't in any way "salvage" that LG DVR . . .
eli
here is "link" .... { much better w/ 'Firefox' ...}
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... n=Category
In Particular - here IS one W/a modest pricing ....
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... 1665406622
NOT-In-Any-Way to make light of your situation, please give consideration one of these reduced Sony HDTVs - available w/ internal TV Guide and totally w/o any "falderal" whatever .... you simply input your ZIP within the initial set up menu w/ that Sony Remote & you are "OFF-TO-THE-RACES!"
Automatically updates each & every Channel during "wee" hours ... all for "Free!"
Of course, this doesn't in any way "salvage" that LG DVR . . .
eli
here is "link" .... { much better w/ 'Firefox' ...}
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... n=Category
In Particular - here IS one W/a modest pricing ....
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... 1665406622
That is a good price, if I was in the market for a new TV. But, I want a DVR.
The LG DVR is currently connected to a 48" Toshiba HDTV. Sadly, I purchased it before the digital conversion. But, I'm very happy with the picture quality.
The LG DVR is currently connected to a 48" Toshiba HDTV. Sadly, I purchased it before the digital conversion. But, I'm very happy with the picture quality.
hi ...
Certainly, you HAVE already "done" a great, new HDTV !
BUT - consider a TIVO to properly go w/ it .... often much cheaper w/ "Web Specials" particularly in their O.T.A.-HD units ...
eli
P.S. - - - Today's listed Web Special, in fact ! . . . . https://www3.tivo.com/store/boxes.do?ty ... enewed_199
Be very skeptical as to that DTVPal "converter" ever being a long-lived OR dependable unit !
MOST have been received "D.O.A." / in need of immediate Updates / Useless / Out Of Warranty in-a-very-short-while, with mostly a cool reception - IF any response at all @ their Customer Service Group!
Certainly, you HAVE already "done" a great, new HDTV !
BUT - consider a TIVO to properly go w/ it .... often much cheaper w/ "Web Specials" particularly in their O.T.A.-HD units ...
eli
P.S. - - - Today's listed Web Special, in fact ! . . . . https://www3.tivo.com/store/boxes.do?ty ... enewed_199
Be very skeptical as to that DTVPal "converter" ever being a long-lived OR dependable unit !
MOST have been received "D.O.A." / in need of immediate Updates / Useless / Out Of Warranty in-a-very-short-while, with mostly a cool reception - IF any response at all @ their Customer Service Group!
do I connect it to the Antenna connection or the cable connection?
If I use the cable connection, what signal type do I select for the box?
I'm not sure if the connection matters, but you'll want to select the analog signal to the DVR with the channel for your CBS affiliate, and let it hunt for Guide info.
- Tim
Success! TV Guide working, again.
I bought a DTVPalPlus. It comes with full directions on how to set up to receive TV Guide on a connected DVR. I don't know how reliable the unit will be. I do Know it works! Artec, also, makes a unit that will work.
My biggest problems was finding GLink Replacement. I checked everywhere. Finally, I found a cable called an IR Blaster. It was only $7, on Ebay. The seller thought it would work. He knew it would work on a Sony.
I received it, yesterday. Set everything up, per the manual. This morning, I have TV Guide back.
As far as the Tivo, I did check them out. They offer a lot of programing benefits. It can record 2 channels at one time. Plus stream Netflix movies. Rumor has it, Blockbuster will soon start streaming through Tivo. I bought an Upgraded Series3 HD Tivo, before I found the cable. It can record, up to 157 hrs of HD. I will use it in the family room & the LG in the bedroom.
Thank you for all of the help & advice. Also, TV Guide service was very helpful. LG wouldn't even help me find a replacement cable for the GLink Cable. They just said they had discontinued all information for that unit.
I bought a DTVPalPlus. It comes with full directions on how to set up to receive TV Guide on a connected DVR. I don't know how reliable the unit will be. I do Know it works! Artec, also, makes a unit that will work.
My biggest problems was finding GLink Replacement. I checked everywhere. Finally, I found a cable called an IR Blaster. It was only $7, on Ebay. The seller thought it would work. He knew it would work on a Sony.
I received it, yesterday. Set everything up, per the manual. This morning, I have TV Guide back.
As far as the Tivo, I did check them out. They offer a lot of programing benefits. It can record 2 channels at one time. Plus stream Netflix movies. Rumor has it, Blockbuster will soon start streaming through Tivo. I bought an Upgraded Series3 HD Tivo, before I found the cable. It can record, up to 157 hrs of HD. I will use it in the family room & the LG in the bedroom.
Thank you for all of the help & advice. Also, TV Guide service was very helpful. LG wouldn't even help me find a replacement cable for the GLink Cable. They just said they had discontinued all information for that unit.
kokomolady47 . . .
Great 'update!' - - - congrats on your perseverance !!
And, just a note of " f.y.i. " before trying & becoming slightly disappointed ?
. . . . No HD hard drive, dual tuner currently available can "DO" 157 HD hours recording per se !! That would be a 'stretch' even with their available external eSATA auxiliary hard drive @ an additional ( one) 1 Terabyte! .. here, for more info re: HD Capacity ... ...
http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/howto/getcon ... acity.html
ONLY ~ 20 hours of HD recording for that Ser 3 as a stand-alone.
Good watching!
eli
Great 'update!' - - - congrats on your perseverance !!
And, just a note of " f.y.i. " before trying & becoming slightly disappointed ?
. . . . No HD hard drive, dual tuner currently available can "DO" 157 HD hours recording per se !! That would be a 'stretch' even with their available external eSATA auxiliary hard drive @ an additional ( one) 1 Terabyte! .. here, for more info re: HD Capacity ... ...
http://www.tivo.com/mytivo/howto/getcon ... acity.html
ONLY ~ 20 hours of HD recording for that Ser 3 as a stand-alone.
Good watching!
eli
Eli,
It is an Upgraded Series 3 HD Tivo.
The upgrade is a new quiet Western Digital 1Terabyte hard disk for recording 157 Hrs. HD recording 1367 Hrs.Standard Def.
That's what the Ad said. In checking specs for Western Digital ! Terabyte hard disk. It says 120 Hours. Tivo XL has the same hard disk & their ad says 150 Hours.
At any rate, it will hold a lot more, than the LG. Thank you for recommending to check on the Tivo. By the way, did I mention --- It was on their site that I saw the cable I needed. Tivo used it on their Series 2.
It is an Upgraded Series 3 HD Tivo.
The upgrade is a new quiet Western Digital 1Terabyte hard disk for recording 157 Hrs. HD recording 1367 Hrs.Standard Def.
That's what the Ad said. In checking specs for Western Digital ! Terabyte hard disk. It says 120 Hours. Tivo XL has the same hard disk & their ad says 150 Hours.
At any rate, it will hold a lot more, than the LG. Thank you for recommending to check on the Tivo. By the way, did I mention --- It was on their site that I saw the cable I needed. Tivo used it on their Series 2.
kokomolady47 ....
Obviously, you're " good-to-go "
I stand corrected / up-to-date, too . . . . perfect!
Last I had been told, they still wouldn't install that hard drive in a Ser3 {only as an external} because it might cut into the possible sales of their "XL" unit.
Thanks for that !
eli
Obviously, you're " good-to-go "
I stand corrected / up-to-date, too . . . . perfect!
Last I had been told, they still wouldn't install that hard drive in a Ser3 {only as an external} because it might cut into the possible sales of their "XL" unit.
Thanks for that !
eli
I'm glad to hear that you persevered, and were able to get things working again on the LG with the TVGuide service. Good for you.
I also appreciate your returning here to let us know of your success with the DTVPal-plus unit. I'm sure that will be helpful to others finding themselves in the same boat as yourself. All too often, people request assistance online, then once they get it and have solved their problem, you never hear from them again.
So thanks for taking the time to share your experiences.
- Tim
I also appreciate your returning here to let us know of your success with the DTVPal-plus unit. I'm sure that will be helpful to others finding themselves in the same boat as yourself. All too often, people request assistance online, then once they get it and have solved their problem, you never hear from them again.
So thanks for taking the time to share your experiences.
- Tim
> The upgrade is a new quiet Western Digital 1Terabyte hard disk for recording 157 Hrs. HD recording <
That's about right. The capacity of any hard drive for HD content is going to vary, depending on the source bit-rate. For example, some channels are as little as 4GB/hour, while others are as much as 8 GB/hour. I find that 6GB/hour is the norm for OTA channels, as well as the average of the min and max. So that's not a bad metric to use.
Since a 1TB drive has an actual capacity of 931GB, and TiVo will reserve a bit of that for overhead functions, 150 hours or so is a very reasonable estimate. If you recorded exclusively from lower-quality channels, it could be as much as 230 hours. Conversely, if you recorded just highest-quality channels (e.g. the HDNets on cable), it could be as low as 110 hours.
> At any rate, it will hold a lot more, than the LG. <
BTW, the LST-3410A can be upgraded as well, simply by installing a larger hard drive. I don't think 1 TB is feasible, but 2x-3x its stock capacity should be possible. I never bothered to do it, but others on the AVS Forum have done so successfully.
- Tim
That's about right. The capacity of any hard drive for HD content is going to vary, depending on the source bit-rate. For example, some channels are as little as 4GB/hour, while others are as much as 8 GB/hour. I find that 6GB/hour is the norm for OTA channels, as well as the average of the min and max. So that's not a bad metric to use.
Since a 1TB drive has an actual capacity of 931GB, and TiVo will reserve a bit of that for overhead functions, 150 hours or so is a very reasonable estimate. If you recorded exclusively from lower-quality channels, it could be as much as 230 hours. Conversely, if you recorded just highest-quality channels (e.g. the HDNets on cable), it could be as low as 110 hours.
> At any rate, it will hold a lot more, than the LG. <
BTW, the LST-3410A can be upgraded as well, simply by installing a larger hard drive. I don't think 1 TB is feasible, but 2x-3x its stock capacity should be possible. I never bothered to do it, but others on the AVS Forum have done so successfully.
- Tim
I just recently purchased a LG LCDV TV with built in DVR and am having a similar problem with not being able to program a guide into the TV. Mine may be a completely different problem from the LST-3410A. I can manually record a program but can not program to record something whenever because there is no guide or program list.
If anyone has a clue on what I may be able to do, I would sure appreciate a reply...
I live in China and receive my programing from two satellite dishes, one signal comes from Hong Kong and the other from Taiwan, both from the "Dream" satellite company.
The LG TV is great other than this problem....
Jim
If anyone has a clue on what I may be able to do, I would sure appreciate a reply...
I live in China and receive my programing from two satellite dishes, one signal comes from Hong Kong and the other from Taiwan, both from the "Dream" satellite company.
The LG TV is great other than this problem....
Jim
jpongrass . . .
This ? - - http://www.dreamsatellite.net/
Yours may well be far beyond the "limitations" of the built-in DVR of your TV . . . in following this 'link' - it continues onward to Beijing Satellite Group & the Philippines, with Many different programing packages, some w/ a "cable card" & others with their own proprietary (?) access arrangements . . .
Here is more - - - http://www.chinasatellitetv.us/dream.htm
Soon gets very ' convoluted ! ' . . . . your "best bet" may be to contact their Engineering Group?
eli
This ? - - http://www.dreamsatellite.net/
Yours may well be far beyond the "limitations" of the built-in DVR of your TV . . . in following this 'link' - it continues onward to Beijing Satellite Group & the Philippines, with Many different programing packages, some w/ a "cable card" & others with their own proprietary (?) access arrangements . . .
Here is more - - - http://www.chinasatellitetv.us/dream.htm
Soon gets very ' convoluted ! ' . . . . your "best bet" may be to contact their Engineering Group?
eli
Eli,
Thanks for the links....
I will be working on this project and hopefully come up with a solution.
I also tried to find some info thru LG on this TV. Couldn't find anything pertaining to my model with build-in DVR. Strange.....
Jim
Thanks for the links....
I will be working on this project and hopefully come up with a solution.
I also tried to find some info thru LG on this TV. Couldn't find anything pertaining to my model with build-in DVR. Strange.....
Jim
Hi jpongrass ..
Last time, all of us perused hi & lo with mostly "no luck" -- I had given up, suggesting you pay for a translation of your own manual & another had suggested using a similar but none-the-less English manual from a different set.
As best I could determine, that specific set IS unique to your Market ... certainly never offered here because of our various "Do not Copy" / "Digital Rights Management" / etc..
Good luck! eli
Last time, all of us perused hi & lo with mostly "no luck" -- I had given up, suggesting you pay for a translation of your own manual & another had suggested using a similar but none-the-less English manual from a different set.
As best I could determine, that specific set IS unique to your Market ... certainly never offered here because of our various "Do not Copy" / "Digital Rights Management" / etc..
Good luck! eli
Thanks again for all you help.....
Jim
Jim
jpongrass wrote:
> Mine may be a completely different problem from the LST-3410A... <
Yep, absolutely no relationship whatsoever.
- Tim
> Mine may be a completely different problem from the LST-3410A... <
Yep, absolutely no relationship whatsoever.
- Tim
The only similarity is the fact that is a LG. As he mentioned, LG Customer Service wasn't any help to him, either. It would seem, if a person wants a reliable product & good customer service, LG isn't a good choice. I know I will not purchase anything from them, again.
Thank God for you guys & the TV Guide representative. You really give good advice. The LG is working & love the Tivo, too.
He could try contacting them: [email protected]. They are experts on getting the guide information.
Good Luck! I know how frustrating it is to pay big money for a device & not being able to enjoy it.
Thank God for you guys & the TV Guide representative. You really give good advice. The LG is working & love the Tivo, too.
He could try contacting them: [email protected]. They are experts on getting the guide information.
Good Luck! I know how frustrating it is to pay big money for a device & not being able to enjoy it.
A couple years ago, I asked for help concerning receiving TVGOs guide on my Analog model LG DVR, during the Digital Conversion.
I ended up buying a HD Tivo for the family room, which I love.
I put the LG3410 in the bedroom. With all of the negative comments concerning the DTVPal used to receive my guide information, I didn't expect it to work long.
I think DTVPals got a bad rap!
I want to say happily, it's still working great. The DTVPal does a wonderful job of downloading the guide. Actually, better now, than it did, when I first hooked it up a couple years ago. They've smoothed out some of the bugs from the digital conversion, which improved the process. Thanks again!
I ended up buying a HD Tivo for the family room, which I love.
I put the LG3410 in the bedroom. With all of the negative comments concerning the DTVPal used to receive my guide information, I didn't expect it to work long.
I think DTVPals got a bad rap!
I want to say happily, it's still working great. The DTVPal does a wonderful job of downloading the guide. Actually, better now, than it did, when I first hooked it up a couple years ago. They've smoothed out some of the bugs from the digital conversion, which improved the process. Thanks again!