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History Repeats Itself Again

Started by ISF Forum • May 11, 2004 • 9 posts
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#1
In the event that Digital Cinema projection takes over film projection (but not necessarily meaning that capturing the performance on film will disappear), what reason would I have to spend $30 for me and my date to see a digitally projected image on a big screen when I can do the same at home once higher resolution panels become available? It's like the days when 1.33:1 TV's took people away from going to theatres playing 1.37:1 film (not that aspect ratio was the matter, but TV was, thus the introduction of mainstream widescreen film formats).
...I still think my home theatre kicks the crap out of any movie theatre...thus almost always wait for the DVD unless it's a huge film that I won't want to wait months for and of course don't want anyone to spoil it for me during that waiting period.
...movie theatres are just for the "social aspect" of watching a film for the first time with many other people who have the same interests (eg. line-ups to see LOTR films, or the new Star Wars films). It's a community!

I still watch the DVD at home and get better enjoyment...could going to the "cinema" one day be on its way out? What will they have to do to entice the audience back into the theatres since many are embracing Fixed Pixel Displays for their home theatres?

I'm sure it'll take a while for that to even become an issue...

...I still can't handle watching any DLP longer than 15 minutes...I get eye fatigue quickly with them and have to break for a while...I'll hang onto my CRT for now...

Michael
The Highest Fidelity
#2
Hi Mike, as far as going to the theater, I think they usually suck any ways so there isn't a lot of motivation to go. If you are getting eye fatigue, than you probably need a bias light. Just because these sets have a pretty high output, that doesn't mean it should be watched like that. I use the theatrical referrence for light output, and try to match it with the display device. Also, viewing distance is important with DLP. If you are too close, it will look terrible.

Seth Schnaible
A/V Consulting
Santa Cruz, CA
(831) 459-9704
http://www.avconsulting.us
#3
No, the eye fatigue is not from the brighter image. I know what that fatigue is like...it is very different from this type of fatigue that actually gives me a headache...I have no idea if it is a byproduct of the continuous colour flicker I see, or something that I can't quite see but my brain is picking up thus giving me a headache...all I know is that something is wrong...and it is not present with my CRT. I have used bias lights in the past...something very dim behind a direct-view just so I don't overload my iris between dark-to-bright changes on the screen.

...yes, and DLP does look bad when sitting closer. Oh well, it does have a lot of potential though, I'm sure someone will get it right eventually...hopefully when new styles of colour wheels arrive and higher-resolution chips become available.

Michael
#4
On the first generation chips, many people reported flicker problems while others couldn't decipher it. You are one of the eagle eyes. The newer HD2 chips are much improved, to the point I will own one now. Also, some of the new color wheel designs coming out will smooth things out even further. I wonder if by the time they get it perfected, the technology will be abandoned for something better, thinner, and cheaper

Seth Schnaible
A/V Consulting
Santa Cruz, CA
(831) 459-9704
http://www.avconsulting.us
#5
Kodak Digital Cinema System

I've seen the Kodak Digital Cinema System on a 24 x 58 foot matte white screen, and it looks very good, even close-up. The projector was demonstrated to industry decision makers at the USC Entertainment Technology Center in Hollywood last February:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/digital/system.shtml

John Pytlak
Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, New York 14650-1922 USA
Telephone: +1 585 477 5325
e-mail: [email protected]
website: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
#6
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what reason would I have to spend $30 for me and my date to see a digitally projected image on a big screen when I can do the same at home once higher resolution panels become available?
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Hi, new guy here. I just wanted to respond and say what's keeping you from doing it now? What will keep you from doing it in the future regardless of whether it's film or digital? So many theaters nowadays aren't up to snuff, that you can usually stay at home and watch a superior audio/visual presentation.

It's really got nothing to do with it being film or digital. I've been to a number of theaters where the film presentation looked like garbage too. I think I go strictly for the atmosphere and the huge screen and sound experience. I don't care what equipment you have at home, you can reproducer the atmosphere of seeing a film with hundreds of other people. You also can't truly reproduce the giant screen effect either. Certainly you can get close with today's widescreen projection systems, but it's still not quite the same.

So to answer your question, I don't think it has anything to do with digital or film. The fact is digital isn't going to stand still. It's always going to progress. Digital is still in it's infancy. It hasn't come close to it's full potential, yet.

Fortunately, the Regal theater I frequent is very good.

Terrell
#7
posted July 28, 2003 03:05 PM
Film Technology Not Standing Still Either

Kodak continues to invest in improving film technology, as well as digital technology:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/researc ... ghts.shtml

http://www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier. ... cale=en_US

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/moti ... hlin.shtml

For home and portable display, keep an eye on Kodak's NUVUE Organic Light Emitting Diode (OLED) display technology:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/display/index.jhtml

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/display/NUVUE.jhtml

John Pytlak
Senior Technical Specialist
Worldwide Technical Services
Entertainment Imaging
Research Labs, Building 69
Eastman Kodak Company
Rochester, New York 14650-1922 USA
Telephone: +1 585 477 5325
e-mail: [email protected]
website: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
#8
Double WOW :shock: :shock:

Mel
DavLyn HTC
#9
ditto on the double wow!

Doug Kinne