Which is More Consumer Friendly: HD DVD or Blu-ray?
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Shane
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Which is More Consumer Friendly: HD DVD or Blu-ray?
No, this is not the standard HD DVD vs. Blu-ray article that you may be used to reading. I am not declaring a "winner" because I think we are at a point now where neither camp is going away. Instead, this article explains which format I believe is the better choice for the consumer (you) this holiday season. Could that change a year from now? Sure, but I want to help you decide what to buy this year.
This article is not written in an attempt to convince anyone who has already made an investment one way or the other, for that is an almost impossible feat. It was written for those that are still "on the fence", as they say. It is for those who are either undecided, or are waiting to see which one will come out ahead (or which will be first to waive the white flag). It's time to hop down off of that fence.
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This article is not written in an attempt to convince anyone who has already made an investment one way or the other, for that is an almost impossible feat. It was written for those that are still "on the fence", as they say. It is for those who are either undecided, or are waiting to see which one will come out ahead (or which will be first to waive the white flag). It's time to hop down off of that fence.
[url=http://www.hdtvmagazine.com/articles/2007/11/hd_dvd_-_the_co.php]Read the Full Article[/url]
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dgmeansit1
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I just might change to HD DVD
In July 2007, I decided to go with the Blu-Ray technology. I bought a Sony BDP-S300 partly motivated by the 5 free Blu-Ray disk offer. I still haven't recieved my free disks even though their website says "In Process". This is completely unacceptable!
I find the player itself to be extremely basic, and often has trouble playing disks that are brand new - stopping, skipping... I went to the trouble to upgrade to the latest firmware ( a major hassle), and I really can't notice any difference.
The main reason I decided to go with blu-ray in the first place was I became convinced it was the format that would win and I was tired of waiting. Now, after reading this article, I am highly considering getting an HD DVD player and getting all of the titles that I want that are not on Blu-Ray.
I feel like, as an early blu-ray adopter, they have let me down. And I really want my 5 free titles that I was promised so many months ago!
I find the player itself to be extremely basic, and often has trouble playing disks that are brand new - stopping, skipping... I went to the trouble to upgrade to the latest firmware ( a major hassle), and I really can't notice any difference.
The main reason I decided to go with blu-ray in the first place was I became convinced it was the format that would win and I was tired of waiting. Now, after reading this article, I am highly considering getting an HD DVD player and getting all of the titles that I want that are not on Blu-Ray.
I feel like, as an early blu-ray adopter, they have let me down. And I really want my 5 free titles that I was promised so many months ago!
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miller
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By far, the best write-up I've read yet
I was leaning toward HD DVD after discussing at length with Dale, and reading Richard's latest article ... but I was holding out for another week or two to see if there was a "deal" announced on either side. After reading your article, I'm no longer waiting.
Thank you for pointing out the advantages HD DVD has over Blu-ray. I would have never thought about the "upgrade" process, or the fact that Blu-ray players come in several "versions".
Very nicely done.
- Miller
Thank you for pointing out the advantages HD DVD has over Blu-ray. I would have never thought about the "upgrade" process, or the fact that Blu-ray players come in several "versions".
Very nicely done.
- Miller
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cohominous
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Cliff's notes version
Let me restate your article in a much more direct way.
Why Choose Either Format?
I'll start by stating some general facts just to make me seem a little more neutral and therefore easier to believe.
Why HD DVD?
Standardization - All HD DVD players conform to an EXISTING spec (Uh... except the upcoming 51GB HD DVD players) although going forward all new Blu Ray players will also live up to basically the same spec except for region coding. So this point has an expiration date.
Less Copy Protection - Although HD DVD's lack of adequate copy protection is specifically why some companies chose to go with Blu Ray, I'll use this as a HD DVD plus. Then I'll add in something about load times even though many newer Blu Ray players load much more quickly than HD DVD counterparts.
Features - Although I don't much care about features, it might support my argument so I'll include them and leave out the fact Blu-Ray players will support the same features well before before the vast majority of consumers ever purchase a player.
Internet Updating - See above.
Better Price - I'll tell everyone HD DVD is selling so cheaply primarily because of low production costs rather than tell people Toshiba is heavily subsidizing it's hardware to gain market penetration. Hee hee.
From the That's-Not-Quite-True Department (I won't even give blu-ray a proper title)
Blu-ray has more studio support - TRUE. But we're thiiiis close.
More manufacturers support - TRUE. Uh... But they cost more! Dang... that point was supposed to go under the price heading for HD DVD! Oh well.
Higher Capacity/bitrate - What the... TRUE again? You don't need it! Wait, tell me again why HD DVD worked so hard to develop a triple layer 51GB disc?
Interactivity - TRUE. But I'll throw in that old blu-ray players don't have it
even though the people reading probably haven't bought ANY HD player yet and by the time they do, Blu-Ray players will have it standard.
Target - They sell HD DVD's too! (online that is - no stand-alone HD DVD players in the actual STORES. Unless you want to buy an XBOX add on.)
Blockbuster - TRUE AGAIN! But only in 9 out of 10 stores nationwide...
Paramount got bags of cash - TRUE. And the reason most people dislike the move is not because of the money per se. It's the fact that consumers were loudly voicing the opinion they want blu-ray with purchases and Paramount extended the format war by switching - effectively prolonging a winner.
Hard coatings - TRUE and I'm really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
Conclusion
I like HD DVD. I don't like Blu Ray. Why? Because I can overlook the many advantages blu ray brings while trumpeting any advantage HD DVD may hold even though those "advantages" will disappear before most consumers make their choice.
Why Choose Either Format?
I'll start by stating some general facts just to make me seem a little more neutral and therefore easier to believe.
Why HD DVD?
Standardization - All HD DVD players conform to an EXISTING spec (Uh... except the upcoming 51GB HD DVD players) although going forward all new Blu Ray players will also live up to basically the same spec except for region coding. So this point has an expiration date.
Less Copy Protection - Although HD DVD's lack of adequate copy protection is specifically why some companies chose to go with Blu Ray, I'll use this as a HD DVD plus. Then I'll add in something about load times even though many newer Blu Ray players load much more quickly than HD DVD counterparts.
Features - Although I don't much care about features, it might support my argument so I'll include them and leave out the fact Blu-Ray players will support the same features well before before the vast majority of consumers ever purchase a player.
Internet Updating - See above.
Better Price - I'll tell everyone HD DVD is selling so cheaply primarily because of low production costs rather than tell people Toshiba is heavily subsidizing it's hardware to gain market penetration. Hee hee.
From the That's-Not-Quite-True Department (I won't even give blu-ray a proper title)
Blu-ray has more studio support - TRUE. But we're thiiiis close.
More manufacturers support - TRUE. Uh... But they cost more! Dang... that point was supposed to go under the price heading for HD DVD! Oh well.
Higher Capacity/bitrate - What the... TRUE again? You don't need it! Wait, tell me again why HD DVD worked so hard to develop a triple layer 51GB disc?
Interactivity - TRUE. But I'll throw in that old blu-ray players don't have it
even though the people reading probably haven't bought ANY HD player yet and by the time they do, Blu-Ray players will have it standard.
Target - They sell HD DVD's too! (online that is - no stand-alone HD DVD players in the actual STORES. Unless you want to buy an XBOX add on.)
Blockbuster - TRUE AGAIN! But only in 9 out of 10 stores nationwide...
Paramount got bags of cash - TRUE. And the reason most people dislike the move is not because of the money per se. It's the fact that consumers were loudly voicing the opinion they want blu-ray with purchases and Paramount extended the format war by switching - effectively prolonging a winner.
Hard coatings - TRUE and I'm really scraping the bottom of the barrel here.
Conclusion
I like HD DVD. I don't like Blu Ray. Why? Because I can overlook the many advantages blu ray brings while trumpeting any advantage HD DVD may hold even though those "advantages" will disappear before most consumers make their choice.
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Shane
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Re: Cliff's notes version
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response.
Like I said in my article, I'm not trying to convince anyone who has already made an investment one way or the other, which you clearly have, but allow me to respond to a few "points" you bring up:
Merry Christmas,
- Shane Sturgeon
Like I said in my article, I'm not trying to convince anyone who has already made an investment one way or the other, which you clearly have, but allow me to respond to a few "points" you bring up:
You will find this echoed elsewhere in my response ... my recommendation is for those buying this year, not at some point in the future when the formats are equal.cohominous wrote:...all new Blu Ray players will also live up to basically the same spec except for region coding. So this point has an expiration date.
Read the article again, I'm not comparing load times of HD DVD and Blu-ray, only stating that it would load faster without the additional encryption. And who likes additional DRM anyway?cohominous wrote:...many newer Blu Ray players load much more quickly than HD DVD counterparts.
Again, my recommendation is for those buying this year, not "some day".cohominous wrote:Blu-Ray players will support the same features well before before the vast majority of consumers ever purchase a player.
Who cares HOW it's cheaper ... subsidize away if it means I can spoil my kids a bit more this Christmas.cohominous wrote:Toshiba is heavily subsidizing it's hardware to gain market penetration.
HD DVD titles in-store as well.cohominous wrote:Target - They sell HD DVD's too! (online that is...
Again, my recommendation is for those buying this year, not "some day".cohominous wrote:...I can overlook the many advantages blu ray brings while trumpeting any advantage HD DVD may hold even though those "advantages" will disappear before most consumers make their choice.
Merry Christmas,
- Shane Sturgeon
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HD DVD The Way to Go
I have just purchased the Toshiba HD-DVD for $199 at Best Buy.
Aside from price, I first and foremost prefer Toshiba products..I have a Toshiba HDTV and the standard Toshiba DVD player. For me, HD DVD wins over Blu-ray because:
1. Less copy protection (and I have no interest in trying to copy a DVD) means less complexity, which in turn, means less potential for DVD 'no play' problems.
2. Standardization. I don't have to worry if a given HD DVD will not play because of some standardization issue.
3. Region Codes. Again, will this DVD play or not play on my DVD.
Aside from price, I first and foremost prefer Toshiba products..I have a Toshiba HDTV and the standard Toshiba DVD player. For me, HD DVD wins over Blu-ray because:
1. Less copy protection (and I have no interest in trying to copy a DVD) means less complexity, which in turn, means less potential for DVD 'no play' problems.
2. Standardization. I don't have to worry if a given HD DVD will not play because of some standardization issue.
3. Region Codes. Again, will this DVD play or not play on my DVD.
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flyboy34
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5 Blu-ray disk with purchase
dg~
I sent for mine after purchasing my PS-3 on Aug 20th and got the 5 disk on Oct 20 something. I was wondering what happened but they did come through. Seems like a long time to wait
flyboy34
I sent for mine after purchasing my PS-3 on Aug 20th and got the 5 disk on Oct 20 something. I was wondering what happened but they did come through. Seems like a long time to wait
flyboy34
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Which is more consumer "friendly"? (cost wise)
Your article is not trying to convience anyone - then why write it?
Your "That's-Not -Quite-True Department" list 8 areas
Area 1: 3 of 6 are all for Blu-ray and Warner is stradling the fence so that makes 4 Blu-ray and 3 HD DVD
Area 2: You had to add a note that side steps this point. Sounds like Sentor Clinton side stepping her blunder.
Area 3: Again you had to add a note and bring in monitary comments.
Area 4: Here you go again with a "yes - but" comment.
Area 5: Give or take - they did go with a bunch of Blu-ray DVD's didn't they?
Area 6: Gosh only 87% of Blockbuster stores went exclusively with Blu-ray. That means HD DVD is behind by 13% if my math figures are still correct.
Area 7: Another "yes - but" answer. Is it true. Did they sell out;so HD DVD would have at least "2" exclusive manufacturers and 1 straddling the fence.
Area 8: Of course this has to be brought in as it seems to be the ONLY area where the HD DVD is ahead of Blu-ray. Cheaper is not always better. (Our gov't uses the cheapest bids and that has proven to be more costly in the long run!)
SO, let's see how we stand with these 8 areas. 7 are in favor of Blu-ray (without any excuses) and 1 is for the cheapest equipment.'
Believe Blu-ray is a WINNER!!!!!
Your "That's-Not -Quite-True Department" list 8 areas
Area 1: 3 of 6 are all for Blu-ray and Warner is stradling the fence so that makes 4 Blu-ray and 3 HD DVD
Area 2: You had to add a note that side steps this point. Sounds like Sentor Clinton side stepping her blunder.
Area 3: Again you had to add a note and bring in monitary comments.
Area 4: Here you go again with a "yes - but" comment.
Area 5: Give or take - they did go with a bunch of Blu-ray DVD's didn't they?
Area 6: Gosh only 87% of Blockbuster stores went exclusively with Blu-ray. That means HD DVD is behind by 13% if my math figures are still correct.
Area 7: Another "yes - but" answer. Is it true. Did they sell out;so HD DVD would have at least "2" exclusive manufacturers and 1 straddling the fence.
Area 8: Of course this has to be brought in as it seems to be the ONLY area where the HD DVD is ahead of Blu-ray. Cheaper is not always better. (Our gov't uses the cheapest bids and that has proven to be more costly in the long run!)
SO, let's see how we stand with these 8 areas. 7 are in favor of Blu-ray (without any excuses) and 1 is for the cheapest equipment.'
Believe Blu-ray is a WINNER!!!!!
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Re: Which is more consumer "friendly"? (cost wise)
As I said in the article, and as I told cohominous above, I'm not trying to convince anyone who has already made an investment one way or the other, which you apparently have. I state quite clearly that it is written for those who are either undecided, or are waiting to see which one will come out ahead.flyboy34 wrote:Your article is not trying to convience anyone - then why write it?
Merry Christmas,
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GMohr
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From a neutral user
I have both, BluRay and HD DVD.. by and far we chose HD DVD 90% of the time. I keep hearing how BRD has all this extra storage and
all the BD-J "WILL" be able to do, in the future. I have been an HD DVD early adopter for over a year. I have the HD-A1 and it still performs
flawlessly. We also have a PS3 for the BRD it works fine. We recently picked up the A30 and we have compared BRD and HD DVD side by side.
HD DVD wins out every time. But the key to all of this is which is easier for my wife to use. 100% of the time it is the Toshiba's and I believe
that is what Shane's article was about. Which is easier for the consumer to use. For MY family it is the HD DVD players.
Thanks for the good article Shane.
Gene
all the BD-J "WILL" be able to do, in the future. I have been an HD DVD early adopter for over a year. I have the HD-A1 and it still performs
flawlessly. We also have a PS3 for the BRD it works fine. We recently picked up the A30 and we have compared BRD and HD DVD side by side.
HD DVD wins out every time. But the key to all of this is which is easier for my wife to use. 100% of the time it is the Toshiba's and I believe
that is what Shane's article was about. Which is easier for the consumer to use. For MY family it is the HD DVD players.
Thanks for the good article Shane.
Gene