Sure, anyone who works with computers is familar with Dell, the company that built an empire based on online shopping for desktops and notebooks. (They even managed to make us forget Gateway, with their spotted-cow shipping boxes, which is now part of Acer.) But would you think of Dell for your next HDTV?
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HDTV Almanac - And for Great Deals on HDTVs, Shop Dell?
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alfredpoor
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alice
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Dell and HD
Alfred , i am not sure where your thinking is at these days . As Dale said HD is the aristocracy of TV
It is not about how cheap you can buy the brand that has among the highest service repair ratios in the industry.
Why would you want to buy from a firm that just paid a 100m fine to settle alleged fraud.
New York - Computer maker Dell agreed Thursday to pay 100 million dollars to settle a fraud lawsuit by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
The regulatory body had alleged that Dell misled investors when it failed to disclose secret payments it had received from chip-maker Intel in return for not using products made by AMD, Intel's smaller rival.
The Intel payments enabled Dell to reach its earnings targets from 2001 through 2006, the SEC claimed. Secondly their faultly battery issue which were known to blow up.
In addition to the 100-million-dollar fine paid by the company, founder and chief executive Michael Dell agreed to pay 4 million dollars personally, as did former chief executive Kevin Rollins. James Schneider, Dell's former chief financial officer, agreed to pay a 3-million-dollar fine. Michael Dell believes he is tune with common man. He lives in a Castle style mansion surrounded by concrete walls and barb wire fence. Inside he enjoys his ill gotten gains .
Would this sound like any common man you know or should be promoting
We must educate the youth who are key to the av business future to the value & quality of a properly designed , selected and calibrated systems
The mantra of cheap is good is a fallacy that JOE SIX PACK needs to educated about. [/
It is not about how cheap you can buy the brand that has among the highest service repair ratios in the industry.
Why would you want to buy from a firm that just paid a 100m fine to settle alleged fraud.
New York - Computer maker Dell agreed Thursday to pay 100 million dollars to settle a fraud lawsuit by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC).
The regulatory body had alleged that Dell misled investors when it failed to disclose secret payments it had received from chip-maker Intel in return for not using products made by AMD, Intel's smaller rival.
The Intel payments enabled Dell to reach its earnings targets from 2001 through 2006, the SEC claimed. Secondly their faultly battery issue which were known to blow up.
In addition to the 100-million-dollar fine paid by the company, founder and chief executive Michael Dell agreed to pay 4 million dollars personally, as did former chief executive Kevin Rollins. James Schneider, Dell's former chief financial officer, agreed to pay a 3-million-dollar fine. Michael Dell believes he is tune with common man. He lives in a Castle style mansion surrounded by concrete walls and barb wire fence. Inside he enjoys his ill gotten gains .
Would this sound like any common man you know or should be promoting
We must educate the youth who are key to the av business future to the value & quality of a properly designed , selected and calibrated systems
The mantra of cheap is good is a fallacy that JOE SIX PACK needs to educated about. [/
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alfredpoor
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Time marches on...
Alice, I think I understand where you're coming from with your comments, but believe me, HDTV is no longer aristocratic. Sure, there are still some models that are premium designs that are built well, but even Mitsubishi has given up its strategy of only selling through the Pro A/V channel. I can't think of anyone besides Runco who has managed to stick to that high ground.
But if you're going to limit yourself to products that are made by companies that have not been fined for dubious or even just illegal trade practices, you're going have a hard time finding any HDTVs that you can buy. Most of the major LCD panel manufacturers have paid huge fines for price fixing. Almost all the set manufacturers have been sued at some time or other for patent violations, and have had imports of their offending products blocked by the U.S. And let's not even start on the issue of bribary in some Asian countries (which is illegal under U.S. laws for a U.S. company to participate in).
If your problem is with Michael Dell personally, I suggest that you not look too deeply into any of the technology companies that you use, as you're likely to find some pretty ruthless folks behind a lot of them.
The value of "properly designed, selected, and calibrated systems"? Good luck with that. There will always be a market for that segment, but I suggest you look at the way Americans buy cars and houses -- which are much larger investments than just a television -- and I think you'll find that quality and fine-tuned adjustment don't make the top five factors in the average consumer's decision.
Like it or not, HDTVs have become a commodity product. A tiny fraction of the total number of consumers is interested in and can afford the premium products, and they do not have enough of a share to drive the market as a whole.
Alfred
But if you're going to limit yourself to products that are made by companies that have not been fined for dubious or even just illegal trade practices, you're going have a hard time finding any HDTVs that you can buy. Most of the major LCD panel manufacturers have paid huge fines for price fixing. Almost all the set manufacturers have been sued at some time or other for patent violations, and have had imports of their offending products blocked by the U.S. And let's not even start on the issue of bribary in some Asian countries (which is illegal under U.S. laws for a U.S. company to participate in).
If your problem is with Michael Dell personally, I suggest that you not look too deeply into any of the technology companies that you use, as you're likely to find some pretty ruthless folks behind a lot of them.
The value of "properly designed, selected, and calibrated systems"? Good luck with that. There will always be a market for that segment, but I suggest you look at the way Americans buy cars and houses -- which are much larger investments than just a television -- and I think you'll find that quality and fine-tuned adjustment don't make the top five factors in the average consumer's decision.
Like it or not, HDTVs have become a commodity product. A tiny fraction of the total number of consumers is interested in and can afford the premium products, and they do not have enough of a share to drive the market as a whole.
Alfred
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alice
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True enough YET we do not need to pander to Joe.
Have built a fine business by exactly maintaining standards.
A decent package can be had for 6-10kfor equipment alone.
There is a still a choice and i believe it remains within the ideals of these mag to point that out
& show the public that price is only part of the package.
Generally you will find people will buy quality to feed their passion or if properly educated as to the value delivered
Personally no issue with Michael - just find his common man commentary a joke
AM not a user of his products. -
Yes We know Mircosoft & Walmart are giant killers in Ruthless tatics
Do not need to promote them
Have built a fine business by exactly maintaining standards.
A decent package can be had for 6-10kfor equipment alone.
There is a still a choice and i believe it remains within the ideals of these mag to point that out
& show the public that price is only part of the package.
Generally you will find people will buy quality to feed their passion or if properly educated as to the value delivered
Personally no issue with Michael - just find his common man commentary a joke
AM not a user of his products. -
Yes We know Mircosoft & Walmart are giant killers in Ruthless tatics
Do not need to promote them