Choice of Panasonic or Samsung plasma.

mccollum67 · Post by **mccollum67** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:25 pm

I am ready to replace a 6 rear old RP HDTV Toshiba which worked flawlessly for these years with a plasma and I really want a Panasonic TC-P58v10 for its 24p capability. When I went to see if this tv was in stock it wasn't and the salesman said that the Samsung PN58B860 was just as good, now I was puzzled, I read on 4 different sights that this is not the case and in fact the Sammy is unreliable and all it offers is more gizmos than anything else. Can anyone help me out on this, its a big purchase and once I buy it its mine so any input is welcomed. On a side note I also thought about a LED LCD but am not sure this new tech. is refined enough yet and if that is a better route than plasma.. Thank you for the time..

eliwhitney · Post by **eliwhitney** » Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:47 pm

mccollum67

Did you "limit" your looking to that single store?

58" sets DO exist "IF" you actually will try a little ... Costco, SAMsCLUB, P.C.Richards, www.amazon.com - - - on & on goes the listing!

You HAVE waited until an awkward moment - - - sets from last year are pretty-much ending - - whereas the all-new versions for the next year's sets will NOT be around in plenty of volume for some weeks.

BUT - - you must make up your mind rather than believe one of us, as we are literally complete strangers, naturally.

No possible comparison between the "Field-of-View" or what HD - Picture Quality people will see / enjoy while sitting along the sides of the TV Room as opposed to the two or three actually in front of the TV - - - - LCD HDTVs with either type of edge or full back lighting via LEDs seem to have Great Difficulties in providing proper "Off-Axis" picture quality.

eli

p.s. = What's the viewing distance between your eyes-to-display actually going to be typically, please? ..... AND - what's the situation re: Ambient lighting conditions in the TV Viewing Room?

mccollum67 · Post by **mccollum67** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:33 am

The distance we view is around 13 feet with a large sofa and a lazy boy aimed at the tv. the lighting is med bright I guess but we have full blinds that can make it darker or lighter as needed. On a side note I love the LED LCD picture but one scene I watched from Wolverine Origins really looked too good i could tell the scene was fake,, grrr this is hard plus I have to make the wife happy..

eliwhitney · Post by **eliwhitney** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:58 am

mccollum67 ...

Then, @ that ~ 13' distance, it IS a 58" that's needed / should be ....

Recall that essentially all those HDTVs within the mass store display you happened to view are improperly set to "Vivid" - Max on Brightness / Contrasts / etc., etc..

NOT-AT-ALL the manner in which any HDTV must be re-set via the internal settings on MENU.

eli

mccollum67 · Post by **mccollum67** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:56 am

TY,, I just finished doing some research on the exact TV I want and it seems the Panasonic has a major issue with possible all the tv's with the blacks after so many hours actually looking grey and IR can be an issue. I found the topic on CNETs forums and apparently the Panasonic people are pulling a Toyota move and not doing much until enough people put it for a claim lol.... Now I am scared to buy the TC-P58V10 and I am not spending $3500.00 on Samsungs 8500 series LED LCD, damn this is bad I need a dw TV.. But thanks for your help sorry I rambled on here..

akirby · Post by **akirby** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:31 pm

I'm definitely no videophile, but before I bought my 52" Sony 120hz LCD I spent a lot of time comparing 60/120/240 hz LCDs and LED LCDs side by side and I just could not tell the difference. I've watched a lot of sports on my Sony and I haven't seen any motion artifacts.

Maybe the differences are there and I just can't see them, but I think anyone considering a purchase should do the same type of comparison and not rely on so-called expert reviews or paper specs.

At 13' a 55" 120hz LCD might work just fine for about half the cost of the bigger plasmas/LEDs. Just a thought.

eliwhitney · Post by **eliwhitney** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:17 pm

mccullom67

Agree 100% w/ akirby !

'IF' you also might not be quite into the "perfection" of 3.2 or 3.3 times the vertical display height that's an integral part of my "harping" about very large displays - - -

... here IS the very set I have had for ~~ 2 + years now {@ this $1,199 - - much less!}, PLUS their associated simultaneous (5) years, 100% In-home Warranty Plan, also @ a reduction when purchased immediately @ $179 - - free del'y included. --- 1-877-865-7669 always works better than Internet for mine!
eli

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/sto ... 1665161573

mccollum67 · Post by **mccollum67** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:39 pm

That is a nice Sony no doubt but as I get older I need to go bigger than 52' lol I think glasses would be easier but I do like the price of the Sony,,, I am going to see if maybe they have the larger version.. From my last reply to this one I have looked a a Sharp Aquos 52" to small but nice, and 2 Samsungs 1 LED LCD with 120HZ and a 120 HZ regular LCD am going looking at them tomorrow, we have a custom shop around here where I hope I can view one in real conditions not inside a major store. Thanks guys will keep you posted and any other tv ideas are welcome I am ruling nothing out. Ohh my wife reminded me that I can get the Panasonic 58v10 for $1999 and that is a savings of over $600.00 compared to Best Buy and I read the a fix maybe on the way for the black level issue they had..

eliwhitney · Post by **eliwhitney** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:15 am

mccollum67 ...

MIGHT just be " in luck?" - - -

Look @ This, pls = under $1600, full guar, White Glove Del'y - no Tax except NY + KY !

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... R&v=glance

eli

bruceghtva · Post by **bruceghtva** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:24 am

For what it's worth, I purchased a 46" Vierra Panasonic 1080P (near top of the line) about 1 1/2 years ago for about $1200 with shipping included and it's been absolutely great with deep blacks and super sports viewing even in a room that is relatively bright during the day. I don't care for most LCD's, whether they are backlit with LED's or not because to me the picture looks artificial at times and to get away from that problem the price of the technology needed turns the LCD choice into $2500 or more. Plasma is the best deal. I do wish I had bought the 50" but the 46" was a new size and I needed to appease my wife by not having a "giant" TV. She thinks this size is perfect and loves the TV so it was a victory of sorts but I am going to get a new one that is around 54" for another home theatre room. It is likely to be a plasma to replace my old 50" DLP. I am waiting for new technology for a bit first so that it is different from my current TV but I am not excited about 3D after just watching something with those ridiculous glasses on for over an hour.
Recommended: Panasonic Plasma TV!