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HDTV Almanac - Banned at the Border

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HDMI Licensing is the organization charged with protecting the intellectual property pool for the High-Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI) standard. This has become the first choice for digital high definition connections for home entertainment devices and accessories, and is supported by more than 1,000 companies who have licensed these patents.
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"Unobtanium." I love it. Thanks, Alfred. Am I free to use this provided I give you credit?

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It's not mine

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Sadly, I can't take credit for "unobtanium", though it is one of my favorite terms. It was used in Avatar, but that was hardly the first time. I believe that on the TV show, Star Trek's Enterprise used warp drives constructed of unobtanium. As it turns out, however, real world engineers have been using the term at least since the 50s, when it was used as a place-holder either for a material that hadn't been worked out yet, or for replacement parts for obsolete equipment that needed to be repaired.

So feel free to use, but alas, give me no credit.

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While i very happy that the manufactuers investment are protected as hopefully it will lead to effective standards among them.

What i do not agee is " quality HDMI cables are available for under $10" There is value in a more expensive cables especially when you have moved beyond Joe Pack's idea of HT with 42 ' tely sitting at 14 ft liistening to a 500 HTB with no hd set top box. :shock:
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Alice, I agree that lots of people are getting HDTV sets that are too small, sit too far from them, and run standard definition content through them. But I'm not sure about the rest of your comment. Are you saying that a $10 HDMI cable is going to compromise the image quality of an HDTV signal? Can you see the difference between a $10 cable and a$100 cable? Digital signals are not like analog. A component video signal can degrade (does degrade) with distance, and you lose information as the waveforms are attenuated. But with a digital signal, either it gets through or it doesn't. Do you believe that there's a performance advantage with an expensive cable? I'd like to understand the technical reasons for that advantage.

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HDMI is the manufacturers choice, not the consumers. Remember the good ol' days when you could rent or purchase movies, no special cables, no special players and both the manufacturers, entertainment industry, and consumers got along fine. Of course when VHS, Beta max, and audio tape came along the entertainment industry screamed loudly they had spelled the end of the industry ...but it never happened. True, we now have better quality video and sound, but that's it. I can't say the quality of the movies or programs has improved all that much.

With digital the industry discovered they could take control of the users equipment. Does your TV pause when changing channels, or occasionally pause during a program? That's the system renegotiating the connection between your receiver and something some where along the line. Much of that is courtesy of HDMI. Physically the components add little to the cost of implementation, but the development of these protocols and hardware costs a small, or maybe not so small fortune.

Now when it comes to copy protection, the average end user doesn't really care as it doesn't affect them and those who do can easily find the product without that copy protection, albeit illegally. Still, downloads are widely available. OTOH it appears to me that much of the lost profits the entertainment industry blames on piracy is due to *legal* alternative forms of access such as NetFlix, and other sources.

Certainly, piracy is a problem, but generally *most* people will pay a fair price for a product. The success of I-tunes has shown that. The battle between industry and pirates has been a never ending escalation with the only result being higher prices for the consumer and less flexibility with our equipment. Due to their heavy handed tactics few have much sympathy left for the entertainment industry so perhaps there is a much easier, more economical way although it's unlikely to ever happen. <:-))
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The Good Old Days

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Roger, without even getting into the question of image quality on a degraded VHS tape, does anyone remember how Macrovision (now Rovi) got started? Copy-protection on published VHS tapes.

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It wasn't that great to begin with

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VHS wasn't all that great to begin with, but we thought it was back then<:-))
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There is a lot of techinical data that supports the value of a quality cable. Of course one can get carried as some cables are just expensive to be expensive & do some whale catching.

Yes i can see the difference . Inexpensive cable is a price point product & as long as you willing to accept the liminations sacrified to achieve said price & not deluding yourself that there is not a difference between a cheap cable & a quality one,go forth.

A perfect example: A couple who are in their mid sixties bought a new Samsung 50" HD with settop box & Blu ray player . The salesman outfitted the system with entry level Monster cable. After a month of viewing , they felt somewas missing and called me to calibrate & see what was up.

After basic tuning & properly reconnecting their system which eliminated a lot of cable & problems, we sat down to view.

They are sports fans , so watched a hd hockey game. The first period was using the monster cable. The second period was using kimber cable priced at $100 per metre .

For the third period, they wanted to run to the store & strangle the salesman with the Monster Cable for overselling them with unnecessary cable & for selling them such crap in the 1st place.

Or more recently, A 38 yr old with 20/20 vision who specializes in commerical av for work in Churches , political conventions, concerts , concert staging rentals also the light.
On his own professional 50' Panasonic plasma, he borrowed a pair of Harmonic Technology compenent video cable (225 a metre). they have not returned.
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Re: It's not mine

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Ah, I see. It's rather like "framus," a term from the high-end audio world (years ago) that was generally used to identify some kind of connection, or piece of odd equipment as in "this framus goes here...".

Yes, I know there is an actual German guitar manufacturer called Framus, but I don't know which came first...them, or the high-end "term." Anyway, "unobtanium" goes well with "framus." <smile>
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