Okay, akirby, please stop with the Tin Hat and you're paranoid conspiracy stuff and I'll accept you don't watch Beck et al.
As for more goverment, exactly what is the difference between no rules and not enforcing rules that are there. So yes, I DO believe we need more govenment, but also a less whore like set of political operatives. Deregulation, and effecting that by removing active regulation is a battle cry of the right - of which EVERTHING that is not a lie, is about money and greed. If you missed that, then not only not watch entertainment news, you might read or listen to the progressive side.
After all, when the progressive side spoke up for clean meat (Sinclair) a hundred years ago, they weren't spit on. (Sorry for the short paralled reference but I have to run!).
HDTV Almanac - FCC Loses on Net Neutrality
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stevekaden
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Actually I am very conversational, very accomodating to other views. One of my very best friends is a republican/right person, and he constantly sends me right/repub. emails.....and you know what, there is NOT A ONE, that I can't go to Snopes, or simply by logic, show that it is either:
a fraud (by misuse of information),
based on a fraudulent assignment to someone real,
downright lies,
racist/racist or other bigotted inuendo,
worship of veterans as a cover to being blind to war,
and all of the above wrapped in fear gaming.
So I am sorry, but I am as open minded as a human can be, but I am just not that stupid. For example, I understand lots of good reasons Obamacare is not good, but Death Panels is NOT one of them, yet the entire right ran with that BS. It is not socialist any more than 10,000 other social things we do in this country and like it. The president can't be fascist, communist, and wild left wing liberal - yet the right just circles those accusations over and over. And I could just go on for days.
I am sorry, but the state of the modern rights has NOTHING humanistic to offer, and nothing but fraud and greed to show for it. I see very very little beyond crass hypocrisy is almosts everything coming out of the political right.
So, present solid consevative philosophy or any other for that matter, and we can discuss maturely. I will not insult you, but I will occasionaly, usually in a hurry, insult the machinations of the right.
a fraud (by misuse of information),
based on a fraudulent assignment to someone real,
downright lies,
racist/racist or other bigotted inuendo,
worship of veterans as a cover to being blind to war,
and all of the above wrapped in fear gaming.
So I am sorry, but I am as open minded as a human can be, but I am just not that stupid. For example, I understand lots of good reasons Obamacare is not good, but Death Panels is NOT one of them, yet the entire right ran with that BS. It is not socialist any more than 10,000 other social things we do in this country and like it. The president can't be fascist, communist, and wild left wing liberal - yet the right just circles those accusations over and over. And I could just go on for days.
I am sorry, but the state of the modern rights has NOTHING humanistic to offer, and nothing but fraud and greed to show for it. I see very very little beyond crass hypocrisy is almosts everything coming out of the political right.
So, present solid consevative philosophy or any other for that matter, and we can discuss maturely. I will not insult you, but I will occasionaly, usually in a hurry, insult the machinations of the right.
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akirby
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I'm not interested in political debates, especially not on a HDTV site.
You say that "death panels" are a gross overreaction to Obamacare that would never happen.
I say that loss of free speech and Big Business buying elections is a gross overreaction to lack of net neutrality.
There is no difference between the two, except you believe one and not the other. The answer is never far left or right, but somewhere in the middle.
You say that "death panels" are a gross overreaction to Obamacare that would never happen.
I say that loss of free speech and Big Business buying elections is a gross overreaction to lack of net neutrality.
There is no difference between the two, except you believe one and not the other. The answer is never far left or right, but somewhere in the middle.
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stevekaden
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Okay, HDTV Mag is not a forum for political debate...can I close with that the ridiculous concept of Death Panels, only flew because of corporately manipulated media - granted that started by and mixed with cult like following of politicians out for power at any cost, or simply No at any cost.
I can not say net neutrality will allow all information flow to be manipulated and/or censored. Indeed the fear of it, the aspects of the constitution it and corporate personhood violates, may drive new law and new amendments to pre-empte that. But neither would I say that there is ever a case where soul-less (corporate) profit engines will not take advantage of any and everything, evil or not, to the brass ring of quarterlies.
Please, I do not think All corporations are bad. After all, many have distinct policy that adhere's to the concept of corporate charter - to be for the public good. In fact my wife's business is a corporation, and she is only evil when in a shoe store.
I can not say net neutrality will allow all information flow to be manipulated and/or censored. Indeed the fear of it, the aspects of the constitution it and corporate personhood violates, may drive new law and new amendments to pre-empte that. But neither would I say that there is ever a case where soul-less (corporate) profit engines will not take advantage of any and everything, evil or not, to the brass ring of quarterlies.
Please, I do not think All corporations are bad. After all, many have distinct policy that adhere's to the concept of corporate charter - to be for the public good. In fact my wife's business is a corporation, and she is only evil when in a shoe store.
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gartrste
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On the bright side...
The technology is already here to run a network outside of corporate control, at least within fairly densely-populated areas. That and a cooperating university's backbone will enable the bypassing of any traffic-shaping that shows up for awhile. In rural areas, it gets a bit more difficult, but you can do amazing things with a wok:
http://www.usbwifi.orconhosting.net.nz/
It often seems silly to me, to feel that I should keep such ideas in my bag of tricks...on the other hand, I never thought the Supreme Court would be settling Presidential elections rather than the American voter, or that my country would get lied into a war. Or that I'd see the day that a corporation - all corporations - would become citizens of the United States of America...again, by the Supreme Court.
lolll...no doubt I'll feel better about corporations suddenly being "people" the day we have a draft because of a war we've been lied into and a corporation - or its board of directors and executive suite - shows up at the local recruiter's office to answer the call.
Don't think I'll hold my breath.
http://www.usbwifi.orconhosting.net.nz/
It often seems silly to me, to feel that I should keep such ideas in my bag of tricks...on the other hand, I never thought the Supreme Court would be settling Presidential elections rather than the American voter, or that my country would get lied into a war. Or that I'd see the day that a corporation - all corporations - would become citizens of the United States of America...again, by the Supreme Court.
lolll...no doubt I'll feel better about corporations suddenly being "people" the day we have a draft because of a war we've been lied into and a corporation - or its board of directors and executive suite - shows up at the local recruiter's office to answer the call.
Don't think I'll hold my breath.