Elevating the high definition experience in home theaters, Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. today announces the Elite® BDP-05FD and Pioneer® BDP-51FD BonusView Blu-ray Disc® players that exceed the capabilities of current players in the market with support of next generation high resolution audio and video formats that fulfill the emotional experience of high end entertainment. Featuring picture-in-picture interactivity and a redesigned platform that significantly improves...
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Pioneer Premium BonusView Blu-Ray Disc Players Emulate True Theater Experience
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Shane
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fpnovak
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Pioneer new 1.3a Pic ic Pic full codec Blu-Ray
Shane,
It sounds good, as I am frustrated with my Samsung BD-P1400 Blu-Ray player. It has 1.3a connectivity and is supposed to handle True Dolby - HD and Master audio DTS, but it is slow as molassas and I'm on my second firmware update since Christmas 2007. Also, unlike Toshiba with their HD-DVD players-who sent out firmware update discs w/o me having to ask, I can't get Samsung to send me a disc-eventhough -they promise. And it is very hard for me to burn my own CD because it is an Image CD (not Data CD) and my PC doesn't have the software to handle the ".iso" suffix. I have to download to my thumb drive and bring it to work to get the IT dept. guys to burn me a disc.
REAL CONVENIENT!.
Anyway, my 2-Questions?
(1) What is the difference in the $799 model over the $599 model?
(2) Will I still see all the "Pioneer Benefits" being that I don't have a Pioneer Kuro HDTV? I have the wonderful new line of Toshiba LCD Regza.(sp?), it can handle all that this blu-ray has to offer with 24 fps and 120 cycles/sec. (Hertz). However, there is this alarming tendency with Blu-ray's I,m finding that unless your TV is the same brand as the Blu-ray, you loose the simple set-up (Samsung hdmi-CEC) for example.
Thanks,
[email protected]
It sounds good, as I am frustrated with my Samsung BD-P1400 Blu-Ray player. It has 1.3a connectivity and is supposed to handle True Dolby - HD and Master audio DTS, but it is slow as molassas and I'm on my second firmware update since Christmas 2007. Also, unlike Toshiba with their HD-DVD players-who sent out firmware update discs w/o me having to ask, I can't get Samsung to send me a disc-eventhough -they promise. And it is very hard for me to burn my own CD because it is an Image CD (not Data CD) and my PC doesn't have the software to handle the ".iso" suffix. I have to download to my thumb drive and bring it to work to get the IT dept. guys to burn me a disc.
REAL CONVENIENT!.
Anyway, my 2-Questions?
(1) What is the difference in the $799 model over the $599 model?
(2) Will I still see all the "Pioneer Benefits" being that I don't have a Pioneer Kuro HDTV? I have the wonderful new line of Toshiba LCD Regza.(sp?), it can handle all that this blu-ray has to offer with 24 fps and 120 cycles/sec. (Hertz). However, there is this alarming tendency with Blu-ray's I,m finding that unless your TV is the same brand as the Blu-ray, you loose the simple set-up (Samsung hdmi-CEC) for example.
Thanks,
[email protected]
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Richard
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CEC is a new kid on the HDMI block. After the last number of years we were hoping HDMI problems would simmer down this year but now comes CEC...
CEC is supposed to be a universal standard that allows ONE HDMI product to control all the rest. This is a slave/master configuration. Current problems are that many products are shipped as the master and when connected to other HDMI CEC gear that are also set as masters CEC does not work. Just had a Mits CEC TV and Sony CEC A/V receiver that didn't want to get along and at this time they are still not getting along. Awaiting a firmware upgrade from either party with fingers crossed...
CEC is supposed to be a universal standard that allows ONE HDMI product to control all the rest. This is a slave/master configuration. Current problems are that many products are shipped as the master and when connected to other HDMI CEC gear that are also set as masters CEC does not work. Just had a Mits CEC TV and Sony CEC A/V receiver that didn't want to get along and at this time they are still not getting along. Awaiting a firmware upgrade from either party with fingers crossed...
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CEC-HDMI: Who' the master/ who's the slave?
Good Luck Richard, I hope you get your needed Firmware Update.
Before the unfortunate demiss of HD-DVD, there seemed to be 2 warring camps.
Major Players Camp-S were/are: Sony, Samsung. & Panasonic.
Major Players of Camp-T were/are: Toshiba, Mitsubishi, & Microsoft.
My experience thus far has been the the two different camps still don't work together, harmoniously, even after Camp-T's surrender. So I wish you luck with getting Mitsubishi & Sony to play nice-together.
Pioneer has usually stayed above the fray with Elite-pricing, they could afford it.
When they did take sides they were usually in Camp-S.
Hence my questions to Shane. After reading his informative article on the new generation Pioneer Blu-Ray players, I'm worried whether all their "specialized features" will work on my new Toshiba 57 LX177 REGZA LCD HDTV- which I love.
I'm having a hard enough time getting used to my Yamaha A-V Receiver [RX-V 3800].
It has all the bells & whistles, I just can't find them after years of worshipping at the Audio Alter of DENON. Had I waiting 1 more month I could've purchased a Denon with 1.3a HDMI bandwidth and appropriate codecs. Damn!
-getting old & set in my ways,
fpnovak
Before the unfortunate demiss of HD-DVD, there seemed to be 2 warring camps.
Major Players Camp-S were/are: Sony, Samsung. & Panasonic.
Major Players of Camp-T were/are: Toshiba, Mitsubishi, & Microsoft.
My experience thus far has been the the two different camps still don't work together, harmoniously, even after Camp-T's surrender. So I wish you luck with getting Mitsubishi & Sony to play nice-together.
Pioneer has usually stayed above the fray with Elite-pricing, they could afford it.
When they did take sides they were usually in Camp-S.
Hence my questions to Shane. After reading his informative article on the new generation Pioneer Blu-Ray players, I'm worried whether all their "specialized features" will work on my new Toshiba 57 LX177 REGZA LCD HDTV- which I love.
I'm having a hard enough time getting used to my Yamaha A-V Receiver [RX-V 3800].
It has all the bells & whistles, I just can't find them after years of worshipping at the Audio Alter of DENON. Had I waiting 1 more month I could've purchased a Denon with 1.3a HDMI bandwidth and appropriate codecs. Damn!
-getting old & set in my ways,
fpnovak
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That was a customer problem... I have a Denon AVR3808Ci at this time. CEC has little to do with warring camps - it is a universal standard and the problem will likely fall under checking the specs AFTER the product has been shipped to the public.
The sore thumb is manufacturers trying to put their own marketing spin on this standard feature with cool names... I agree it is difficult to determine if the CEC has exclusive features to that brand or just a cool name.
The sore thumb is manufacturers trying to put their own marketing spin on this standard feature with cool names... I agree it is difficult to determine if the CEC has exclusive features to that brand or just a cool name.
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I don't want a True Theater Experience!!!
A true theater experience would require being limited to eating only expensive junk food and drinking only expensive junk drinks or very expensive water). Audience noise would be a must - along with all the smells and sounds that go along with their junk food intake. Further, a true experience would mean uncomfortable seats, tolerating people moving in front of you and occasionally stepping on your toes, the inability to take a break without missing part of the show, and having to watch 15 minutes worth of commercials before the show starts.
Also, getting to a real theater will require you to pay high gas prices to get there and back. There is additional time involved too: in my case it takes appx 30 minutes (one way) to get to the nearest one based on average daily traffic.
Oh, and you can't watch it again in the future unless you pay again (for each person).
I, for one, don't want a True Theater Experience! A living room experience is ever so much better!
Also, getting to a real theater will require you to pay high gas prices to get there and back. There is additional time involved too: in my case it takes appx 30 minutes (one way) to get to the nearest one based on average daily traffic.
Oh, and you can't watch it again in the future unless you pay again (for each person).
I, for one, don't want a True Theater Experience! A living room experience is ever so much better!