29 Million Blu-ray Homes Expected This Year

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Post by hdtvjim »

Well I guess I'm living in the past as it was only about 3 years ago that I last looked into the problem of HDMI/HDCP compatability. Sorry about that. Things seem to be moving to fast in this day and age. What is true today is not necessarily true tomorrow. Oh well.
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"akirby"

I was also referring to the $250 sets. Those, too, were being subsidized by Toshiba. The problem is we don't have any non-subsidized HD DVD players for comparison.
The Chinese made Venturer HD DVD player had a list price in Canada of $199. Before the year is out there should be many CH DVD (Chinese HD DVD) players in the $100-$200 range.

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If HD DVD had won the war the price would have gone up on those, too.


No; see above.

Yes, there are other options available and BD may never be as popular as DVD is now, but it will continue to grow.
True; but because HD DVD is not significantly more expensive than DVD, it truly could have been the successor to DVD that BD will never be.
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[email protected] wrote:Well, I guess I'm confused. Some of the movies you listed I want to be available too, so we have solidarity there. But you realize that eventually NO new movies will be released on HD DVD and if there are no plans to realize the movies you mentioned on HD DVD now, it's very unlikely they ever will be. That's not true for Blu-ray.
Correct, in that no new movies will be released. But people don't need BR to get them in HD. As to whether the older titles will ever be released in BR is a question as well. Some will, but most won't. My point is that many of those films, as well as many indies/foreign films are ALREADY available elsewhere in HD! So one doesn't need BR at all, since there is a much greater amount of content available without BR. (And more economical without BR as well.)

Personally, I don't see any problem with both formats being allowed to continue. They both were selling pretty well (not gangbusters, but not really bad). Multiple formats seems todo ok for other formats (music, games, etc.). But the industry decided to arbitrarily kill one (alienating many consumers in the process) and leave the (currently) higher priced, less (IMHO) proficient format intact. Anyway, it's a moot point now, as the
choice has been taken out of the consumer's hands.
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Post by hharris4earthlink »

I assume by saying you don't need Blu-ray to get HD you mean broadcast and satellite HD. Well of course that's true for standard definition also, yet people still buy DVDs. But when you say that people will not buy Blu-ray because it's already available in HD, I assume now you're talking about people that have already bought HD DVDs. That might be true in the immediate future, but since HD DVD is a dead format, I can't see how that could be true very much longer.

Your argument that music and games exist in multiple formats so why not make that true for recorded HD movies is a little bit puzzling to me. Games exist in multiple formats because companies are selling the total interactive experience, not just sound and picture, although cross-platform games certainly exist. But I don't think you could argue that if platform independent gaming were possible it wouldn't be welcomed by the consumer, for no other reason than it would drive down prices.

Music, however, has only existed in multiple formats in transitional phases. We are currently transitioning from CDs to solid state memory. The Wall Street Journal has reported a complete collapse of the music CD market. Tapes and records are practically nonexistent.

The ideal case, at least in my mind, is when one data format supports multiple purposes, the diametric opposite case from multiple formats serving one purpose, and I think Blu-ray does that best because of its larger memory storage capability.

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Post by allargon »

Blu-Ray will grow because the studios will market it as the greatest thing since sliced bread and people will fall for it even if they have uncalibrated 32" 768p LCD's hooked up to their Blu-Ray players with composite cables.

No Country For Old Men sold 10% of its discs (the first five days) on Blu-Ray. Even if there was a coupon allowing the Blu-Ray to be cheaper than the SD DVD, 10% is impressive.
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Sorry, but I don't feel selling 68,000 discs is even a drop in the bucket. Heck, even TRANSFORMERS sold more than that.
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